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		<title>By: BuddyL</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-26918</link>
		<dc:creator>BuddyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the comments are as good as the article! Thanks Matteo and all else. This was an extremely helpful page.

I come from a little different angle though - I have spent too many hours trying to figure out whether problems I am incurring are due to jQuery bugs or my own misunderstanding. I&#039;m more of a server-side programmer anyway and this stuff drives me nuts when I can&#039;t even write sample code to figure out what is happening.

Straight coding does not take more time when you are spending half your time with a framework trying to figure out why it is doing what it is doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the comments are as good as the article! Thanks Matteo and all else. This was an extremely helpful page.</p>
<p>I come from a little different angle though &#8211; I have spent too many hours trying to figure out whether problems I am incurring are due to jQuery bugs or my own misunderstanding. I&#8217;m more of a server-side programmer anyway and this stuff drives me nuts when I can&#8217;t even write sample code to figure out what is happening.</p>
<p>Straight coding does not take more time when you are spending half your time with a framework trying to figure out why it is doing what it is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matteo Spinelli</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-26659</link>
		<dc:creator>Matteo Spinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You get caching for free, it’s called “variables”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

exactly!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You get caching for free, it’s called “variables”</p></blockquote>
<p>exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: c.</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-26651</link>
		<dc:creator>c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You may argue that getElementById is probably faster if you need to get elements by their ID, but do not confuse optimization with over-optimization. How many elements could a mobile page have? Plus, you should really cache the elements you are going to use in your code, so you are not probably querying DOM 30 times per second&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why are you implying that you need a framework to cache your DOM query?  Because you have a hardon for using $?  You get caching for free, it&#039;s called &quot;variables&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Isn’t the right way to include jQuery to tap into the Google repository?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It doesn&#039;t matter.  The newest stats (2010) I can find on browsers for mobile devices have a cache limit of 4MB.  JQuery by itself is 24KB (minified+gzipped).  The odds of keeping this in your cache is pretty small when you consider all of the other assets you&#039;ll be downloading on any given page (CSS, images, other JS files, the page itself).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You may argue that getElementById is probably faster if you need to get elements by their ID, but do not confuse optimization with over-optimization. How many elements could a mobile page have? Plus, you should really cache the elements you are going to use in your code, so you are not probably querying DOM 30 times per second</p></blockquote>
<p>Why are you implying that you need a framework to cache your DOM query?  Because you have a hardon for using $?  You get caching for free, it&#8217;s called &#8220;variables&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Isn’t the right way to include jQuery to tap into the Google repository?</p></blockquote>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter.  The newest stats (2010) I can find on browsers for mobile devices have a cache limit of 4MB.  JQuery by itself is 24KB (minified+gzipped).  The odds of keeping this in your cache is pretty small when you consider all of the other assets you&#8217;ll be downloading on any given page (CSS, images, other JS files, the page itself).</p>
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		<title>By: Aniket Naik</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-26178</link>
		<dc:creator>Aniket Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just couldn&#039;t help but comment. I so totally agree with using pure HTML5/Javascript and libraries like iscroll to get much better performing mobile apps. I&#039;m currently developing a simple, single page (multiple views) app that feels native (smooth transitions and all)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just couldn&#8217;t help but comment. I so totally agree with using pure HTML5/Javascript and libraries like iscroll to get much better performing mobile apps. I&#8217;m currently developing a simple, single page (multiple views) app that feels native (smooth transitions and all)</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-25923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By doing this you&#039;re throwing backwards compatibility out the window. Most phones are *not* androids or iphones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By doing this you&#8217;re throwing backwards compatibility out the window. Most phones are *not* androids or iphones.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-25729</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its only in the client&#039;s cache if they&#039;ve been to a site with that specific file version of jQuery.  But that isn&#039;t really the point.  Just having the framework on the client isn&#039;t where the performance issues occur.  Its initiating calls to that framework that in many cases can more efficiently be addressed using javascript.    For instance, using (&#039;#element&#039;) then uses the framework to call document.getElementById(&#039;element&#039;) -- which is woefully inefficient - especially on a mobile platform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its only in the client&#8217;s cache if they&#8217;ve been to a site with that specific file version of jQuery.  But that isn&#8217;t really the point.  Just having the framework on the client isn&#8217;t where the performance issues occur.  Its initiating calls to that framework that in many cases can more efficiently be addressed using javascript.    For instance, using (&#8216;#element&#8217;) then uses the framework to call document.getElementById(&#8216;element&#8217;) &#8212; which is woefully inefficient &#8211; especially on a mobile platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Roznbeker</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-25060</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Roznbeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just researching how to create small and fast jquery/jquery mobile alternative for our web app and this is great resource!
Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just researching how to create small and fast jquery/jquery mobile alternative for our web app and this is great resource!<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Haluk Karamete</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-24645</link>
		<dc:creator>Haluk Karamete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the right way to include jQuery to tap into the Google repository? And if that&#039;s so, isn&#039;t JQuery is already on the client&#039;s cache? So why worry about it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the right way to include jQuery to tap into the Google repository? And if that&#8217;s so, isn&#8217;t JQuery is already on the client&#8217;s cache? So why worry about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Keane</title>
		<link>http://cubiq.org/do-you-really-need-jquery-for-mobile-dev/comment-page-1#comment-24492</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Matteo, i&#039;m real newbie and am trying to get the onclick method working on iPhone. Apparently I have to use the Tap method? Have you any idea how I would go aboput coding this? The site I&#039;m testing on is bingbangbosh.ie and below is the segment of code i&#039;m trying to get to work. Many Thanks! Frank


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matteo, i&#8217;m real newbie and am trying to get the onclick method working on iPhone. Apparently I have to use the Tap method? Have you any idea how I would go aboput coding this? The site I&#8217;m testing on is bingbangbosh.ie and below is the segment of code i&#8217;m trying to get to work. Many Thanks! Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Do you really need jQuery (for mobile dev)? &#124; JQUERY - JQUERY LITE &#124; Scoop.it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do you really need jQuery (for mobile dev)? &#124; JQUERY - JQUERY LITE &#124; Scoop.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Do you really need jQuery (for mobile dev)?           I love jQuery, I use it everyday, you can spot it even on this blog.     Source: cubiq.org [...]]]></description>
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